Snopes NO MORE The Self-proclaimed Debunker Of Urban Legend has been debunked

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Comment by Carol Koenigsknecht on March 19, 2013 at 9:23am

Frankmusic, your comments just seem to sum everything up for me as far as what is REALLY wrong with this country...the divisiveness between left and right, the flame of which is fanned ever higher by the media every single day. What I find so funny is that so many people still can't see this, still can't see how much all of us Americans have in common with each other. They believe the hype on all sides of the political spectrum, the fear of each other. How anyone can really imagine that any of us are 'enemies' and need to be 'victorious' over each other, and that this kind of 'fighting against' is going to actually win anything for anyone is beyond me.

 

Everything you stated could have been, and has been stated in exactly the same way by your perceived 'enemies' on the left. Both sides are saying the same thing about each other, demonizing each other, and getting absolutely nowhere as far as truly fixing anything in this country. I actually just shared your post (without naming you, of course) on Facebook as a little experiment in perception. Here is what I wrote:

I've got a fun little quiz for everyone: Try to guess the political affinity of the person who wrote the following comment (Libertarian, Green, Democrat or Republican) and post your guess below. I'll post the answer tomorrow. "Always be extremely cautious and selective with all of your news sources. The traditional media outlets can no longer be trusted to deliver the truth. Their _____ ideology ...must trump everything. It's their religion, folks. With that said; In these times, one needs to keep an open mind, remember that opinions are not fact and automatically verify everything. Our counterparts on the ______ enjoy starting smear/fear rumors that seem to evolve into legend and are then accepted as truth. They just can't help themselves. You see after all, they unfortunately are born with the Kool-Aide already running through their veins."

As I have friends from all over the political spectrum, it will be interesting to see what political label they think you are. I'll share the results here after a few days.

Liberal media, Conservative media...whichever you think it is, it is indeed run by the super rich who have also bought our government representatives in every sense of the word. And no, big media cannot be trusted for facts of any kind. Nor can any Republicans or Democrats in office, or who are running for office.

Comment by Frankmusic on March 15, 2013 at 12:06am

Always be extremely cautious and selective with all of your news sources. The traditional media outlets can no longer be trusted to deliver the truth. Their Liberal ideology must trump everything. It's their religion, folks.

With that said;
In these times, one needs to keep an open mind, remember that opinions are not fact and automatically verify everything. Our counterparts on the left enjoy starting smear/fear rumors that seem to evolve into legend and are then accepted as truth. They just can't help themselves. You see after all, they unfortunately are born with the Kool-Aide already running through their veins.

Comment by Carol Koenigsknecht on March 8, 2013 at 7:55am

I agree, Katie, we all do need to do our own research and fact-checking instead of solely relying on fact-checking sites. I think several of the fact-checking sites are pretty reliable, and I don't think that they are all financed by people trying to get their own agenda across instead of the truth, but I'm sure there are some like this. I just think that some of these sites are run by people who truly love research and fact checking, and they aren't really money-motivated...not everyone is, you know.

Truth is slippery, especially when applied to politics. People tend to choose the facts that support what they already believe to be true. If anyone really read the info I posted from both Truth or Fiction and Snopes, instead of dismissing both as untruthful, they'd see that the info explains the documents more clearly and what they actually mean. But I'm not going to rehash info I already posted.

Many of us, whether we lean left or right, are trying to work together to come up with solutions for this country that we can all live with. We deeply care about the direction our country has taken with corporate and super rich interests affecting how OUR government representatives vote and the laws they create...and they are not serving the interests of the general population for quite a while now.

But this takes working together to solve, not being at each other's throats because of the fear that we are fed from these corporate, super rich, and media. Working against either the left or the right is not in ANY of our best interests. Working to understand each other and where we're coming from, what we are concerned about, and finding mature and positive ways to solve our differences is where we will all see a better and stronger USA.

Being fearful of the left and their supposed 'agenda' does nothing to further the cause of a UNITED states, and instead keeps us all that much more in the dark.People on the left feel the same way about people on the right. I have friends and family all over the political spectrum and I understand so much more about all of them because I LISTEN to what they have to express instead of trying to get my own points across. Not one of them has any kind of agenda to keep this country spiraling downward, just deep concerns about what has been happening and the direction we are all taking.

I refuse to vote either Republican or Democrat for the rest of my life as these two parties are responsible for dividing us more than anything else that is happening. I believe we all have much more in common than we are led to believe and I do think that we have the ability to work together for common goals.

Anyway, Katie, thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, and yes, let's keep asking questions!!!

Hospitality Director Comment by Katie Baker on March 8, 2013 at 6:03am

Carol,

I think seeing is believing and now I have to question even Truth or Fiction.  The old saying "a picture speaks louder than words" is evidenced by the documents that Jake presented.

Whether or not Soros is involved behind Snopes is not even the issue in my mind.  The facts still remain that if Snopes lied about Elena Kagan's connections, would they be telling the truth about their connections with Soros?

Just asking questions, that's what we should all do.  The truth is this ... it takes a lot of time and money to do research to track down all the "myths" or "facts".  Where does the financing for these projects come from? Once again it goes back to the old adage "follow the money."

Instead of referring to other "myth buster" sites, perhaps we all need to do more digging and see what turns up ... follow the money!  We've already proven the lies as far as Kagan was concerned.

Comment by Carol Koenigsknecht on February 27, 2013 at 1:43am

The Truth or Fiction fact checking site was one recommended by others, below, as a much more 'factual' site than Snopes. I just found it ironic that people slamming Snopes, and recommending TruthorFiction instead don't seem to realize that TruthorFiction debunked Snopes as having a liberal agenda, being connected to Soros, etc.

And it makes no difference to me if you attack me personally, instead of offering any intelligent, factual debate. I'm just presenting the truth as I see it, as everyone else here is doing. I realize that some folks have trouble admitting they were wrong about something.

Comment by William Palmer on February 26, 2013 at 6:03pm

Gee Whiz, I guess you are right since another website says it isn't so. I guess I'll be gullible and grovel about how wrong I was. Give me a break. You remind me of that girl on the Allstate commercial waiting for her French model date. 

Comment by Carol Koenigsknecht on February 26, 2013 at 4:32am

All of this is false. Check out what the TruthorFiction site had to say on this subject of Snopes: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/snopes.htm#.USyAdaJBTLJ

I also contacted Snopes directly for comment, and here are some links from them, further debunking the 'debunkers':

http://www.snopes.com/info/notes/kagan.asp
http://www.snopes.com/info/faq.asp#sponsor
http://tinyurl.com/2839vwx
http://tinyurl.com/26j43zy

Hospitality Director Comment by Katie Baker on February 24, 2013 at 12:02pm

Just wanted everyone to know that my husband, Jake, actually did the research in looking up the pictures of the court documents contained in this blog to see if the email we had received was "FACT" or "FICTION".  So, is SNOPES telling us all the truth, I think NOT!

Comment by Angela DeFranco on February 21, 2013 at 11:02am

I stopped referring to Snopes long ago when I heard it was controlled by a couple.  Then I learned Soros was involved.  I refer to www.truthorfiction.com for verification of an e-mail. 

Comment by American First on February 21, 2013 at 7:25am

Noooooooo, Snopes doesn't support BHO, Noooooooo, not much!   If they can't counter something, they just "can't find a reference".

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

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